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the cliff. it is really about senator harry reid and mitch mcconnell? >> to develop the political staring contest democrats say republicans need to move and around rego. the president arrived this morning from hawaii and so with the top democrats and republicans but still no update to report. senate majority leader harry reid said it looks like we're going over a cliff and it is up to the house. >> speaker boner shed call people back to washington today and should not have let them go. they are not here. john boner cared more about his speakership than the financial footing. >> they're now working on a fiscal clear solutions they say the majority leader should talk less and legislate more. also mitch mcconnell says the leader is happy to review with the president what he has in mind but that a majority has not put forward a plan. when they do members will review legislation to make decisions on how fast -- best to proceed. >> it takes time for the house and senate to get something done. if there is a solution agreed to buy political leaders it could take beyond the new year before it gets
in the last few hours. we have the leaders on capitol hill right now. mitch mcconnell is running .4 republicans. it is the vice president for democrats. they are the last few who have closed a budget deal if this administration. they continue to work at that. they continue to negotiate. if you make over, you would see a tax increase. this is a negotiation. everything remains very fluid right now. if they do reach a deal, then it comes time to sell it to individual lawmakers. then the house would have to eventually vote on it. let's say a tax increase, preventing a tax increase, if that something you could support? >> they will increase taxes. we have voted to not raise taxes on anybody and extend the tax reductions for everybody. that was a bipartisan vote taken on -- rich: hold on one second. we have senator harry reid on the floor. dagen: there is senator harry reid. >> it is for the date only. they will. dagen: roughly ten minutes each. >> mr. president, i was disturbed to read in the washington post this morning that some kind of agreements are being made here. somehow, the demo
there was earlier in the day. mitch mcconnell and harry reid say they're going to come out and try to hammer out a bipartisan deal that can pass the senate with enough republican votes to convince the house to act and even president obama who had been concerned that they were not going to act and challenging them for an up and down vote said he was optimistic. here's the president after that meeting. >> i just had a good and constructive discussion at the white house with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. >> now what would be in that mini deal? we're talking about tax increases for people at near the top of the income scale. the question is the threshold, 400 or $500,000 are the likely places that that could end up. it would likely turn off the automatic sequester by using some of the revenue from the tax increases to account as budget cuts and turn off they is quester and it would also extend unemployment benefits and do the so-called doc fix to preve
. >> thank you so much. we just got word that the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell will be going before cameras shortly so that could be market-moving as well. we'll wait to see what that is. >> when he speaks, we'll bring him to you. flows into stocks-based mutual and exchange traded funds have posted 8 billion and bonds, on the other hand, have taken less than 1 billion. a bit of a rotation going on here. should investors be putting money to work in equities despite today's selloff? >> the battle of stocks versus bond. with us cnbc's jeff cox and kathy jones from charles schwab. waiting to see what the ten-year note is doing. it's come back sharply now with the buying of stocks here. i mean, there is this either/or going on right now, safety vers versus risks, right? >> doing this all year long, news about the economy or settlement of the fiscal cliff issue, the bond market sells off a little bit and the market rallies. here we are again. hope springs eternal. >> let's say we get a deal in the near term, some sort of a framework deal. does that mean we'll see rates on the treas
of the republicans and senate, mitch mcconnell, said that he was frustrated with the negotiations with the democrats majority leader harry reid unless he was going to make a call to his longtime friend joe biden to see if they could get the talks moving forward. he said he was looking for a willing dance partner. it appears he may have found one here. the vice president, as you know, has come in at the last minute on numerous deals in the past. the most recently on the big debt ceiling fight back in 2011. shibani: they have 25 minutes to work it all out. ashley: peter barnes, thank you very much. we will be taking the presidents live in about 24 minutes. there is no deal yet. what will be that immediate impacts if they cannot come together. $536 billion in tax increases, payments to medicare providers will drop by 27%, extended unemployment benefits will expire 42 million individuals. we should have listened to our next guest. he called it. if he hopeful we will get a last minute deal? stephen moore. look, you are here earlier this month and said we will be back here talking with you. >> here we are
-mail that i have in my hand caught our attention. senator mitch mcconnell telling republican colleagues they had a deal at 1:45 a.m. but then later this morning which would be early for most people, the white house call demanding that the sequestered be turned off. what are you hearing about that? what does that really means? >> well, upon capitol hill, apparently at the last minute there were some senate democrats who were getting nervous. there has been some division as to whether or not there were trying to replace the sequester, the lay it all together, or to allow some partial cuts. apparently the plant originally was that the senate democrats and republicans will each put forward their own ideas and plans for dealing with the sequester but then again according to our colleague, some senate democrats got concerned about that. they would rather just delay th3 sequester altogether. as a result there was that late phone call asking mitch mcconnell told of. we just heard him on the floor saying that they are going to -- that they were going to wait on that piece and tried to get the ta
with mitch mcconnell on the floor saying that we are very, very close. we'll get more details from john harwood in a moment, but right now the markets are voting and they're giving thumbs up with the dow up 138 points. nasdaq up 2% right now. it's been strong all day. now at 3,020. and the s&p up 1.5%. >> look at those stocks go. president obama saying a fiscal cliff agreement is quote, in sight. mitch mcconnell moments ago saying quote, we are very, very close. >> to d.c. and john harwood. he and eamon have been monitoring all day. why are we close but not there yet? what's left, john? >> what's left is the agreement between the two parties on delaying those automatic across the board defense and domestic budget cuts which nobody wants. they deliberately set up so they wouldn't take place. democrats want to defer those for a year. republicans say we're only going to put them off to the extent you can find budget cuts that match the amount that the sequester would have been. now, the republicans are offering two or three months, 60 or 90 days and suggesting cuts. but democrats have not
's instructed senator harry reid and senator mitch mcconnell to come up with a plan that can pass in congress. his brief comments a short while ago came after a white house meeting today with congressional leaders that ended with no deal. ahead of that, investors lost hope lawmakers can come together in the time remaining. in the last few minutes of trading, stocks sold off. the dow tumbled 158 points, the nasdaq lost 25, and the s&p fell over 15 points. here's darren gersh with more on the critical work that has to get done in washington this weekend. >> port: thpresident declared himself modestly optimistic congress could still reach an agreement to head off huge tax hikes on january first, but he also warned lawmakers to get their work done. >> the american people are not going to have patience with a self-inflicted wound on the economy. >> reporter: senate republican leader mitch mcconnell called the white house meeting a good one and he told his fellow republicans he hoped to have a fiscal cliff recommendation soon. >> we will be working hard to see if we can get there in next 24 hours a
. >> i want everyone to know i'm willing to get this done, but i need a dance partner. >> mitch mcconnell called on vice president joe biden to be that dance partner. biden has brokered 11th-hour deals with the republican leader in the past. mcconnell's appeal came just hours after the president appeared on "meet the press" and called out republican leaders by name. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done, not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate, but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> nbc's capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell is live on capitol hill. kelly o., i'm looking at the clock, we are now 14 hours and 58 minutes from going over the fiscal cliff. let's outline -- >> reporter: but who's counting, right, chris? >> yeah, who's counting? let's go over for people, what remains unresolved? it seems like two weeks ago they were pretty well set on the ba
of light. and that is, that senate minority leader, of the republican, mitch mcconnell and vice president biden have spoken. they've spoken twice. and the two of them have a history of cutting deals together. they were able to cobble together the debt deal that got us through the debt negotiations and kept the country from defaulting back in the summer of 2011. does this mean it will happen again? no. but it at least means there is a line of communication open between democrats and senior democrat and republican and the possibility that who knows, maybe there could be a path forward and this very late hour. ali, i'm not saying there will be. >> which is why nobody is saying we're done. nobody is saying this is over. you know, for the last few weeks, most people will recall that the conversations have been between president obama, at least the public ones, between president obama and john boehner. john bain certificate sort of sitting this one out. it's now harry reid, the senate majority leader, the democrat, and mitch mcconnell, the senate minority leader, the republican and joe biden ha
republican leader mitch mcconnell adding his voice to a day that has seen a number of people talking, including that man, harry reid, the majority leader of the senate. we've been getting mixed signals. the biggest signal we got was regarding the house which is coming back to -- reconvening sunday night, and that brought the market back in a big way, but now we're hearing from mitch mcconnell and let's bring in eamon javers there on capitol hill, i mean, the rumor had been, a lot of traders talking here, eamon, that maybe there's a dell brewing between the president and the senate. that doesn't sound like anything is going on right now according to rich mcconnell. >> what we got was a facebook post from scott brown who said he was come back to washington and jumping on an airplane to review some new proposal from the president that they expected to get. the whole afternoon has been spent by reporters trying -- trying to figure out what was going on. now harry vaed responding to mcconnell so let's right to it. >> he's upset because, quote, the phone never rang. he complains i've not d
surprised and isn't it interesting that vice president joe biden and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell have taken this thing and put it together i think it is quite interesting to me. >> it speaks to the power of personal relationship to me. interestingly it speaks to the relationship between mcconnell and harry reid. clearly the personal animosity got to be too much for those two to continue negotiating. clearly the president was happy with biden being a part of this final push here. if the reports are right, he is coming up to sell the deal to him. a lot of whom have expressed reservations about him. >> now, let's get reaction from the senate side. senator tom coburn as always sir, if we are going to throw over the see quester, i get that, but the thing that bothers me the most. if we are going to substitute tax revenues instead, i think that leads us down the wrong road. i agree. look, cutting $1.2 trillion over the next ten years was hard one to battle hard for the country to go through. what is being proposed now is $600 billion in tax increased with about a fifth of it to be spen
taking under $250,000. that would cost $157. it also approved taxing $92 billion. mitch mcconnell is critical to hammer out a deal in the senate because he can filibuster anything. his spokesman said "nothing new to report. we do not know yet what senator reed plans to bring to the senate for a vote." >> if you want leaders, then, you have to lead. the president has been a pathetic leader. i would vote for revenues, including tax rate hikes even though i do not like them to save the country from becoming greece. i will not set aside the $1.2 trillion in cuts. >> i know it is hard for republicans. the president ran on a platform. 250. he won 60% of the voters. peter: we will see what senator reid puts on the floor on thursday. we will see if it is something that some of these republicans can vote for, ashley, and see if that can avoid the fiscal cliff. the president and speaker both that they will cut their vacations short and return to washington this week to keep trying to work something out. ashley: i am surprised you got anyone would you made those calls today, peter. time is r
a listen to mitch mcconnell last night talking about the pace of the negotiations here and the frustration that he's experienced going through all of this over the weekend. take a listen. >> now, i'm concerned about the lack of urgency here. like we all know we're running out of time. this is far too much at stake for political gamesmanship. we need to protect the american families and businesses from this looming tax hike. everyone agrees that that action is necessary. >> so now all eyes are focused on the senate for 11:00 this morning when they do reconvene. there were reports there was major progress overnight for something that could pass on the senate side. the question is whether it can pass on the house side under the leadership of speaker john boehner. i've talked to a couple of republicans this morning who are fairly optimistic that whatever comes out of the senate, whatever that deal is, it will pass the house this afternoon. although hard-core republican anti-tax folks are not going to vote for it. it still would likely have enough votes to pass. that's at least the mood of some
curious. because here we are with mitch mcconnell and the vice president trying to work this out from a senate perspective. and the story is the house isn't going to vote for it. i'd like to back up a square on this game board. the senate hasn't voted for it yet. >> uh-huh. >> so i don't know. i think the negotiations are going on between a couple individuals. to throw this out in the full senate for a vote much less the house has a whiff of plan "b" and boehner on it. i think it may still get worked out in the band-aid form, but i don't think that's complete at this point. so i think maybe we're all going to be working tomorrow. >> i'm just getting word now that the house gop is going to caucus in an hour. they may not vote, but they'll be talking about what they're hearing coming from the senate and probably get more details at that point. it's not like we're not going to get any progress. but as i said before, rick, for something this important, would you want this to be that much of a rush job in. >> i agree with you. i totally absolutely agree with you. that it needs to be taken
mitch mcconnell called the white house meeting a good one and he told his fellow republicans he hoped to have a fiscal cliff recommendation soon. >> we will be working hard to see if we can get there in next 24 hours and so i am hopeful and optimistic. >> reporter: but the sticking point remains finding something that can make it through the house with enough support from republicans. >> it seems like the 250 threshold that the president proposed previously is unlikely to pass the house in its current form, and so without some sort of additional compromise there, it seems unlikely that we're going to get something done before the end of the year. >> susie: you know thanks for that report. i am just wondering from all of the reporting you have done, do you think we are better off with a bad deal than no deal at all? >> you know susie when peopletal they are talking about a bad deal in political terms. frankly it's republicans that are most worried about the bad deal they have most leverage. the president has the most leverage. they are worried about a bad deal. any deal that gets us pa
the republican leader, mitch mcconnell, who is the key here, does he sign off on a deal. if he signs off on a deal, something will happen. does he read that and say, boy, we need to take this tax issue off the table. he is a big believer of this. give the president his tax hike on the rich now. fight him on everything else when taxes aren't part of the conversation. fight him on everything else in six weeks when the debt ceiling is hit or eight weeks, 12 weeks, whenever that fight happens, and do that. i do think that mcconnell -- that's where he wants to be. can he get there in the next 24 hours? that's what we don't know. >> tom brokaw? >> well, it seems to me that the middle class is going to have a date for the prom. everybody is talking about protecting the middle class here. so i think this deal will probably get done around the middle class tax cut. it's at what level. $400,000 or $250,000 or some other number. which is going to be critically important. a lot of people don't realize in a large urban and suburban areas of america, $250,000 doesn't make you rich. have you two kids i
a weekend of late-night negotiations with the vice presidt, senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said an agreement on the fiscal cliff was very, very close. >> we'll continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending, but let's not let that hold up protecting americans from the tax hike that will take place in about 10 hours. >> reporter: the deal would raise the top tax rate for individuals making more than $400,000 and couples with more than $450,000 in income. itemized deductions would be limited for individuals making more than $250,000 and couples making more than $300,000. the estate tax would rise to 40%. emergency unemployment benefits would be extended for another year. the alternative minimum tax would be adjusted for inflation permanently. and, in an effort to boost the economy, small businesses would be eligible for another year of bonus depreciation when they buy equipment. the big hang up is what to do about the sequester-- $110 billion in automatic spending cuts in defense and domestic programs that begin at midnight. democrats want to postpone the cuts for a year
a weekend of late-night negotiations with the vice president, senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said an agreement on the fiscal cliff was very, very close. >> we'll continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending, but let's not let that hold up protecting americans from the tax hike that will take place in about 10 hours. >> reporter: the deal would raise the top tax rate for individuals making more than $400,000 and couples with more than $450,000 in income. itemized deductions would be limited for individuals making more than $250,000 and couples making more than $300,000. the estate tax would rise to 40%. emergency unemployment benefits would be extended for another year. the alternative minimum tax would be adjusted for inflation permanently. and, in an effort to boost the economy, small businesses would be eligible for another year of bonus depreciation when they buy equipment. the big hang up is what to do about the sequester-- $110 billion in automatic spending cuts in defense and domestic programs that begin at midnight. democrats want to postpone the cuts for a year
? >> there is no deal right now. the deal would be made by mitch mcconnell, he is the deal maker for the house and senate on fiscal issues. he talked last night like he had an offer from the president, that was denied by everybody this morning. my guess is this is for show. if there is a deal you will hear about it at 7:00 or 8:00 this evening as legislation popped onto the clerk's office in the senate hopefully getting up before midnight so they can pass in to order. what they ought to do is take bills the have already been passed by the house, the senate should amend those and pass those to the house today or tomorrow and get the business taken care of. those are pretty good bill that could be amended but we have not seen action from the senate so far. adam: three hundred million americans aged for the law into the potomac. thank you for being with us. bill beach from the heritage foundation. the white house meeting on the fiscal cliff is less than an hour away. we will tell you which companies will be first to get slammed by automatic spending cuts and tax hikes and still ahead a critical w
harry reid, mitch mcconnell arriving at the white house, should have house leadership shortly to begin a meeting, a last ditch effort to try to help the economy avoid the fiscal cliff, or at least pieces of it, and, yes, the buzz around washington is a possible path forward that aids describe as preventing tax increase for income amounts of $400,000 or $500,000 or so, extend unemployment insurance, but, still, nothing has been agreed to. all in washington are waiting to see how this meeting goes. it's just about to start here in dc. meanwhile, on capital hill, the fighting continues, and in some corners, a sense of pessimism. >> if we don't have a deal within the next 24 hours, the question is where do you buy a parachute? we'll be going over the cliff because the closer we get to the end, the less likely it is you can compress an agreement into place that will have enough votes to pass. >> this is basically it. the first time in weeks the top democrat, the top republican from the house and senate have gotten together here at the white house with the president and vice president, congr
between mitch mcconnell and vice-president biden were making some progress. on that, up went the futures market to show a gain of 80 points for the dow. we're back to showing a gain of 50 or 70 points. watch for head lines, for leaks, for any sound bites that might appear on any news program anywhere and you will have some kind of market reaction. as we countdown to the end of this fiscal cliff, i'm going to call it a debacle because that's exactly what it is. even if we get a very, very narrow deal, whoop-de-doo, we have a debt ceiling problem and amt taxes, government spending, all of those problems outstanding, nothing done. the dow jones industrial average is not done up for the opening bell, it's down, we're 42 points, 48 points going down as of right now. 50 points lower. what did you give, what did you get for christmas this year? chances are, a computer tablet maybe? according to the latest data from cnet, there were 17.4 million tablet activations on christmas day alone, more than double than last year. look at the two leading tablet makers, names that you know, let's start with
a long history of talks and bipartisan negotiations with mitch mcconnell. i want to, over the past hour, we have spoken to two republican senators, i wanted to talk to claire mccaskill, thanks very much for joining us, they just ended their almost two-hour meeting, martin, two hours, what was going on in there behind those door? >> i know you will be shocked to hear that a lot of senators wanted to talk. >> that is shocking. >> everyone wanted to have their same i think the consensus is that we all still want to try to get a deal but some of us are very discouraged that what appears to be on the table now doesn't really do anything to reduce the deficit and this was all supposed to be an exercise in bringing down our deficit and our long-term debt and where we are right now, it doesn't appear that we are getting that done and even more importantly, it appears that republicans are still trying to protect the tippy top as opposed to looking after the greater good of the economy and middle class families. >> as far as you-all were told by the democratic leader, where do you think stands --
with mitch mcconnell. still there are senate democrats some of them who say this tax plan favors the rich. >> if we're going to have some kind of a deal, the deal must be one that really does favor the middle class. the real middle class. those that are making 30, 50, $70,000 a year. that's the real middle class newark. -- america. as i see this thing developing, quite frankly, as i have said before, no deal is better than a bad deal and this looks like a very bad deal the way this is shaping up. >> some other senate democrats we have spoken to here on capitol hill say, look, it's not everything we wanted but it's a good enough compromise we should move forward with it senate republicans, especially in leadership say look, we have struck a deal with the white house and vice president joe biden here, we should vote on this tax part tonight. trace? >> trace: rich edson live for us on capitol hill. thank you. as lawmakers continue working on a compromise, much of the nation getting ready to watch the ball drop in times square. and security in new york city as tight as a drum. a few hours ago
on a bipartisan deal ostensibly with his republican adversary mitch mcconnell. >> -- engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house, in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. >> well, if the senate manages to reach a compromise, the hope is that the house would follow. that's option one. the green one. option two is less certain. president obama reportedly challenged congressional leaders from both parties on friday to come up with a deal better than the one he proposed. the center piece of which is that the top marginal tax rate will increase for those earning $250,000 or more from 35% to 39.6%. that's only on the amount earned above that threshold. obama has told congress either they come up with something better or put his proposal to a vote. he's betting even those who hate the idea of a tax increase on the rich will hate causing america to go over the fiscal cliff even more. okay. option three. that's the red box. that's one where ame
get past this fiscal cliff, boehner and mitch mcconnell have made it clear the president wants a debt ceiling increase of any amount, like $1 trillion, he has to find $1 trillion in savings. >> well, according to corker and alexander, this is $1 trillion in savings from the medicare program if you do what they are suggesting here. >> all from spending, i hope? >> that's what they are saying. >> if it's all from spending, that's something we could do as part of the debt ceiling. that -- that's a fine suggestion. it -- it just shouldn't be confused with the present mess this week. >> but, they are adding this to the conversation if -- i mean, obviously we're not going to get something comprehensive before december 31, but as the talks continue, assuming they do into january, maybe even longer as we get closer to the debt ceiling, is this a kind of a compromise that you can accept on the other side? >> yes. it is very clear that boehner and mitch mcconnell have made clear, if the president wants a dollar of debt ceiling increase, we need to cut spending a dollar, and that goes for $1 tri
the president saying we're close, but no deal. you have senator mitch mcconnell on the republican side saying close, but no deal. leads me to ask, what about joe biden? our vice president? he's the one who kind of brought things together in the early morning hours. >> reporter: he did, and mitch mcconnell called vice president biden, and they were hammering out a deal almost to the point where the senate minority leader said when he woke up this morning he thought they did have a deal, at least on the tax portion. republicans saying they have worked out and reached agreement on the tax issues, the problem are the automatic spending cuts, the $94 billion known oz the sequester throughout 2013. the white house wants to pull back on those cuts, republicans want to replace those cuts with other cuts. first, let's take a look at what they've agreed to. this is the framework on taxes. it exempts income of $400,000 for individuals,450 for families. capital gains and dividends stay the same underneath those amounts, for amounts above that, 20% on those taxes. the alternative minimum tax, the estate t
mitch mcconnell warned he would not write a blank check to the white house, though he said he would keep an open mind on anything the president proposes. >> it appears to me the action, if there is any, is now in the senate side and we'll just have to see if we're able, on a bipartisan basis to move forward. >> reporter: senate majority leader harry reid said he too would try to reach agreement. but that was after spending most of the day hammering away at house republicans. reid blamed the current stand off on the inability of house republicans to pass their own plan which would have extended tax breaks for everyone making less than a million dollars a year. >> it's the mother of all debacles. that was brought up in an effort to send us something. he couldn't even pass it among the republicans it was so absurd. he meaning the speaker. so it's very clear now mr. president that the speaker's number one goal is to get elected speaker on january 3. >> reporter: january 3 is the deadline for the new congress to start work. if a fiscal cliff fix isn't passed by then, the start of a new congre
, then there is negative political effects. now, that's why they've brought in vice president biden, mitch mcconnell, to try to close this thing. and they may close a deal, but there's no guarantee that even any deal they come to an agreement with tonight will actually make it tomorrow. >> and chuck, this congress has, your honor telling us, the lowest approval rating ever, the least productive. what happens when the next congress comes in later this week? >> reporter: well, the bad news is, if you view this as bad news, more of the same. because even if they get this temporary deal on taxes, temporarily buy down the automatic spending cuts, what they have set up is a series of mini fiscal cliffs, if you will, kate. so every three to six weeks, over the next six months, we could be going through nights like this where we're up against the clock and congress has to act and the president -- they have to figure out how to compromise or watch automatic headaches kick in. >> chuck todd is going -- it's going to be a long night. thanks for being with us on wall street today, this final trading day of the
saying, quote, nothing to report, no conversations with republicans yet. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell who can filibuster anything reid proposes, a spokesperson saying, quote, no outream from dems. we are waiting on senate democrats. if nothing's done, january 1st, the nation faces a $5 trillion tax increase over ten years through the expiration of the bush tax cuts and assuming congress does not approve the patch anded medicare doc fix, and other things. the lapse of the tax cuts means the top tax rate reverts to 39.6 from 35% now. taxes would also go up for lower income earners. the maximum low rate would revert to 15% from 10% now, and investors see capital gains rate revert from 20%, revert to 20%, rather from 15% now. depending on what analysis you look at, average families could pay $2,000 to $4,000 more in taxes next year. ashley? ashley: that's the why it's called the cliff. thank you, peter. >> you bet. ashley: the speaker stuck in a storm, but the phones do work. bell ringing soon, and amazon known for customer service, especially over the holidays, but it's not car
,000 per year at a cost of 157 billion. also passing the alternative minimum tax for $92 billion. mitch mcconnell is critical to hammering out a deal because he can filibuster any legislation, but his spokesman told me this morning nothing new to report. we don't know what senator reid plans to bring to the senate for a vote. >> truth of the matter is if we do fall off the cliff, he will come back, propose just what he proposed yesterday leaving washington, and will end up adopting at the washed up at the market in such turmoil and the lack of confidence, why don't we go ahead and act now. >> most numbers are used to spending the christmas to new year's at home, it is time to go back to the table. if anybody sees these representatives from the house in line shops are getting their christmas turkey wish them a merry christmas, civil and say go back to the table, not her own table, the table in washington. >> so there's a group of senate republicans who would vote for taxes on wealthier taxpayers now to get that done, avoid the cliff, move on and fight for spending cuts when the president asks to r
reid was just -- wasn't he great yesterday talking about mitch mcconnell and the republicans? no budget. >> and more than 14,000 longshoremen could go on strike this weekend because of a contract dispute. a walkout would close cargo ports. some estimates say a strike could cost the economy $1 billion a day. which would add up. it would kind of counteract the 85 billion. but bernanke is doing 2 billion a day, right? >> more. >> 2.5, yeah. so that would take away -- we could easily rachet it up. unless the printing presses overheat at that point. let's check on the markets this morning. the futures were indicated lower based on angst. there it is worse. it was down 40 earlier, not out 62. they were down 150 at one point. came back down to 18. we're somewhere. >> between there. let's check out some of these other boards that maybe we missed in the last hour. europe, europe is even moving on angst about the fiscal cliff or that stuff in japan. i don't know. very close. it's one or the other. let's check out asia. asia is actually up this morning. and then let's check out the oil board. oil
deals by monday are unlikely. minority leader mitch mcconnell says there's still time for an agreement. >> republicans aren't likely to sign a blank check just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that wouldn't be fair to the american people. >> now, a new reuters poll shows americans blame republicans more than democrats or president obama for the fiscal crisis. and when asked who they held more response, 27% said the gop, 6% pointed to the dems and 30% said all of the above. for more on this, we're joined by christian schultz from barronberg bank. welcome. so we're going over the fiscal cliff. >> well, the consumer confidenc already be over the cliff in terms of confidence already. that might already be the first impact of the crisis of -- not of the crisis, but yes of the fiscal cliff. it seems we have this moment where this animal goes over the cliff, all limbs are still rotating around and we're staring into the abyss and eventually we're going to fold. >> i love that mental image. >> but it was the expectations component of that confidence data yesterday that was r
,000. but republicans dropped their demand to cut social security benefits. at that point, joe biden and mitch mcconnell took over negotiations. the two worked together in the senate for 23 years and have a strong history of finding compromise. >> i think there's some good news. the conversations continued late into the night last night. i think now there is a better than 50/50 chance that we will avoid the fiscal cliff by midnight tonight. >> reporter: if the senate comes one a plan and passes it, the -- comes up with a plan and passes, it the house would have to vote on it. kyla campbell, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 7:16. even if congress avoids the flip, your paycheck will still be smaller in 2013. that's because a temperature reduction in the social security payroll tax expires today. starting in january, workers will, once again, have 6.2% of their wages withheld to pay for social security. that's up from the 4.2% rate that's been in effect for the past two years. people making $50,000 will get about $83 a month less in their paychecks. >>> 7:16. a new report from the u.s. senate on the attack on the
. no conversations with republicans yet. said republican leader mitch mcconnell, quote, no our reach for many democrats. we talk to the speaker's office all the time and always do but the house passed legislation and we are waiting on senate democrats. house speaker john boehner, quote, nothing new and from democratic leader of the house nancy pelosi, her spokesperson saying, quote, i don't know anything right now. as of now the cliff remains clearly in sight. if nothing is done on january 1st, the nation faces a $5 trillion tax increase over ten years through the expiration of a george bush tax cuts and assuming congress does not approve its annual patch for the alternative minimum tax and medicare doc fix that prevents deep cuts in medicare the laps of the tax cuts would mean the top tax rate would revert back to 39.6 in the clinton administration from 35% now but taxes will also go up for tax rates would go up for lower-income earners. the maximum lowest rate reverting to 15% from 10% and for investors capital gains rates would revert to 20% from 15% and depending on the analysis the avera
the problems with the weather around the country and got no response on that. spokesperson for mitch mcconnell asked the same question and he said it was possible that some senators might be delayed in getting back here. we should point out for example there are two republican senators in maine. shibani: good luck getting home. got some work to do. dennis: it is now up to the senate to come up with a fiscal cliff compromise because the house failed to work out a plan and we are joined by two house members, marcy captor and republican congressman tom mcclintock. thank you for being with us. let's start with you, during the presidential debate, president obama said flatly we are not going to go over the fiscal cliff. it is not going to happen. is that still the case do you think? >> that has been president obama's position and it is my position and the position of the democratic caucus in the house, the position of the democratic caucus in the senate. the problem has been in the house sadly, there's a serious step on the republican side of the aisle and we were unable to reach resolution comprom
and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell is increase to 39.6 for income somewhere between 400 and $500,000 and probably 450,000. the estate tax would go up slightly from the level of 35% and current law scheduled to go up to 35 and would probably go up slightly to 40%. you are looking at one year extension of unemployment benefits pen you a honk do they defer across the board automatic budget cuts called sequester. as amman referred to, dekrats want at least one year for that to be turned off. initially asking for two years. republicans say, no, we will come up with cuts to offset that for 60 to 90 days. that's where things are going. the problem is you can't consider any one part of the agreement done until they are all done because there's an inner play on cap gains and dividends by the way, looking at going from 15% on both which is current policy to 20% on both. not the higher rate called for undercurrent law of 39.6% for dividends. 20% for both. this is something that both sides are going to have to consider. see if they can regard it as acceptable it their members. once we get a
the moments until our taxes go up. >> senate minority leader mitch mcconnell is expected to take the senate floor a few minutes from now. he has been saying his office has been saying throughout the day when senate democrats offer a plan, republicans will review it. so republicans are very much waiting for democrats to offer a new type of fiscal cliff proposal. democrats are saying to republicans in the house, they should just pass that bill that passed the senate earlier this year, one that extends tax rates for families earning less than $250,000 a year. so very much bit of a stalemate going on here in washington as we move ever closer to the deadline. back to you. ashley: my first reaction is, so what's new? >> not much. ashley: at least it is something. but the 31st is well, the very next day. >> right. ashley: if you look past the headlines about the gridlock in washington what do the fundamentals of the economy really look like? are they not that bad? and will 2013 be the year for you to make money? certainly hope so. mark luschini, janney montgomery scott analyst joining me in an fb.
think the chances are pretty good that if mitch mcconnell comes out, strikes a deal, blesses it, it gets 60 plus votes in the senate, which means some -- a slug of republicans are going along with democrats to vote for it, they might lose some democrats on it, i think then it would be very difficult for john boehner on the last day to keep that off the house floor. john boehner has followed what denny hastert used to impose as the majority of the majority rule. you don't bring something to the floor unless most of your members are for it. i think john boehner in this case would be willing to set that aside. he would have something else for his members to vote for, which would be more favorable to those die hard conservatives who oppose the deal, but i think he would put it on the floor and i think eld pass. >> joining us now on the set is republican congresswoman shelly moore-capito and democratic congressman greg meeks from new york. congresswoman, i think he could do that and bring it and still be fine on january 3rd. is that your view? he would be re-elected speaker. >> i think he's g
, and speaking from his senate days, republican leader mitch mcconnell speaking, but what the gop wants, they won't get. both sides are still talking, even if they are not necessarily listening to each other. >> the republican leader has shown absolutely good faith, but it is that we are apart on big issues. >> i am willing to get it done, but i need a dance partner. >> both of the republicans and the democrats agree there need to be changes to the u.s. tax code, and that is one thorny issue to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. let's go to jean sahati who is a senior writer for, and probably the person most immersed in the my knew that -- minutia of all of the stuff going on and so you have political headlines of stuff going on like tax rates and there are back channels and people have been discussing this for a long time, and what is your take? >> a long time. >> and first of all, real tax reform is a process to take two three years at best probably and that is not certainly going to happen tonight and not worked out, but what is the likelihood of a deal? what would it look like fr
to report. no conversations with republicans yet. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell who can filibuster anything reid proposes, his spokesperson saying quote, no outreach from any dems. we're waiting on senate dems. so, if nothing is done, that means on january 1st, the nation faces about a five trillion dollar tax increase over 10 years through the expiration of the bush tax cuts and assuming congress does not approve its annual patch for the alternative minimum tax and that medicare doc fix that prevents deep cuts in medicare payments. now the lapse of the tax cuts would mean that the top tax rate would revert back to 39.6 from the clinton administration from 35% now but taxes would also go up for lower income earners. the maximum low rate would revert back to 15% from 10% now. the for investors, capital gains rates would revert to 20% from 15% now. depending on the analysis, the average family would pay 2,000 to 4 thou more in taxes next year. back to you guys. tracy: peter we were talking about the protocol. you sent a great little ted it about. you have to explain it to
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